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België Brugge Guido Gezellearchief 8565 17136 I regret that my letter had anything to do with kee-

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op zijde 1 linksboven: Eng. College // to his boys. [+ jaartal tweemaal onderstreept] (rode inkt, schuin, onbekende hand)

 Brieven van, aan en over Gezelle II, p.136-137 (113b) De briefwisseling van Guido Gezelle met de Engelsen 1854-1899 / door B. De Leeuw, P. De Wilde, K. Verbeke, (o.l.v.) A. Deprez. - Gent : Koninklijke Academie voor Nederlandse Taal- en Letterkunde, 1991, dl.II, p.32-33

De briefwisseling van Guido Gezelle.

De tekst werd diplomatisch getranscribeerd, en aangevuld met een editoriale laag.

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Privé-URI's met het brief prefix verwijzen naar andere brieven in de editie. De URI brief:gg.10184 verwijst bijvoorbeeld naar https://edities.kantl.be/gezelle/ed/DALF.db.gg.10184.

Privé-URI's met het record prefix verwijzen naar recordnummers in de catalogus van de Openbare Bibliotheek Brugge. De URI record:1322 verwijst bijvoorbeeld naar https://brugge.bibliotheek.be/detail/?itemid=|library/v/obbrugge/gezelle|1322.

Engels brief Gezelle, Guido 17/06/1864 Brugge (Brugge) onbekend adressant gereconstrueerd op basis van het handschrift ; adressaat onbekend, in de briefw. met de Engelsen foutief toegeschreven aan Clara Andrews; plaats gereconstrueerd op basis van contextuele gegevens ; de brief eindigt plots en werd blijkbaar nooit verzonden
  • brugge June 17th 1864 My dear child,4 I regret that my letter had anything to do with keeping you up I am also very sorry for any other bad effect it may have had. I wrote whatever I wrote to comply with your wish and I thought and still think the time was come that I might speak out without reserve. I am sorry to say you must know what and who I really am. A priest is not framed and shaped and prepared for the best part of this world, he is (too much perhaps!) cautionned against the worst that may come. I just wrote: "too much perhaps" I should have said there may be a deficiency on the other side consisting in not being sufficiently prepared to distinguish at once and to appreciate to its value the good he may meet with. Father Eyre S.J. told me one of his greatest temptation was to be led to believe there was no such thing as virtue This temptation I never had still I can easily understand its possibility. I never intended to reprove you for anything you may have said in talking to me never once; nor is my phrase about the construction others might have put on your words meant to imply indirectly that I ever should have constructed them <+in> any <-way> but in their real and to me and yourself most valuable meaning; it may look like that therefor I said I trusted you with the mistakes etc. and when I said I was agreably disapointed then I was not disapointed in my opinion of you but in finding the rules laid down in such matters failed and disapointed me, indeed, God knows how agreably. There is one thing very good in this and it is that if it had been really a construction of mine you would have freely forgiven me would not you? I may have written: forgive my suspicions in plural and I believe that stupid s did all the mischief; I tell you my suspicions and it is a relief I sometimes catch you as I did when you told me persons noticed my absence and asked you why I did not come; sometimes you catch me as in the ink-and-tears question where I suspected wrong and again just lately; still taking it at the word there would be no playing with spiritual things in that especially not to have your own way, that own way consisted in wishing me to come to see you well there was no harm in that surely, have your own way by all means. It takes a good deal of shifting about before one can make to things fit even when they are made to fit exactly so we are trying hard to understand one anothers misunderstandings; it is hardly possible that a great deal of instruction should not be the result both for me and for you. By the bye I do not think your spirit is "prouder than I think it to be". The apostle I quoted is St Paul; if you like to read it which I would advise you to do it is in the I to the Corinthians {<=chapt.>[=chapter]} the 7th down to the 11, and again same {<=chapt.>[=chapter]} verse 29 to the last which you may take as if I said it to you. in the 9th verse to burn is always explained to burn by immoral desires and be in danger of sinning text transcription brugge 117136 kantl link
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  • Brieven van, aan en over Gezelle II, p.136-137 (113b) ggajub De briefwisseling van Guido Gezelle met de Engelsen 1854-1899 / door B. De Leeuw, P. De Wilde, K. Verbeke, (o.l.v.) A. Deprez. - Gent : Koninklijke Academie voor Nederlandse Taal- en Letterkunde, 1991, dl.II, p.32-33 ggaother
    • Brieven van, aan en over Gezelle II, p.136-137 (113b) De briefwisseling van Guido Gezelle met de Engelsen 1854-1899 / door B. De Leeuw, P. De Wilde, K. Verbeke, (o.l.v.) A. Deprez. - Gent : Koninklijke Academie voor Nederlandse Taal- en Letterkunde, 1991, dl.II, p.32-33
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    + June 17th 1864 My dear child6

    I regret that my letter had anything to do with keeping you up I am also very sorry for any other bad effect it may have had. I wrote whatever I wrote to comply with your wish and I thought and still think the time was come that I might speak out without reserve. I am sorry to say you must know what and who I really am. A priest is not framed and shaped and prepared for the best part of this world, he is (too much perhaps!) cautionned against the worst that may come. I just wrote: "too much perhaps" I should have said there may be a deficiency on the other side consisting in not being sufficiently prepared to distinguish at once and to appreciate to its value the good he may meet with. Father Eyre S.J. told me one of his greatest temptations was to be led to believe there was no such thing as virtue This temptation I never had still I can easily understand its possibility. I never intended to reprove you for anything you may have said in talking to me never once; nor is my phrase about the construction others might have put on your words meant to imply indirectly that I ever should have constructed them in any way but in their real and to me and yourself most valuable meaning; it may look like that therefor I said I trusted you with the mistakes etc and when I said I was agreably disapointed then I was not disapointed in my opinion of you but in finding the rules laid down in such matters failed and disapointed me, indeed, God knows how agreably. There is one thing very good in this and it is that if it had been really a construction of mine you would have freely forgiven me would not you? I may have written: forgive my suspicions in plural and I believe that stupid s did all the mischief; I tell you my suspicions and it is a relief I sometimes catch you as I did when you told me persons noticed my absence and asked you why I did not come; sometimes you catch me as in the ink-and-tears question where I suspected wrong and again just lately; still taking it at the word there would be no playing with spiritual things in that especially not to have your own way, that own way consisted in wishing me to come to see you well there was no harm in that surely, have your own way by all means. It takes a good deal of shifting about before one can make to things fit even when they are made to fitexactly so we are trying hard to understand one anothers misunderstandings; it is hardly possible that a great deal of instruction should not be the result both for me and for you. By the bye I do not think your spirit is “prouder than I think it to be". The apostle I quoted is St Paul; if you like to read it which I would advise you to do it is in the I to the Corinthians chapt. chapter the 7th down to the 11, and again same chapt. chapter verse 29 to the last which you may take as if I said it to you.7 in the 9th verse to burn is always explained to burn by immoral desires and be in danger of sinning8